novacane32000 331 posts msg #157030 - Ignore novacane32000 modified | 
6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM
  Just seeing now that this thread is getting some traction
 
 @Cheese-- I tried a few combinations on MACD slow/fast line crossovers and the results were so bad I stopped searching for a profitable combination. If anyone has a specific combo I can try to backtest it.
 
 I did try several combos of the MACD crossing the zero line and (12,26,9) had the best results.
 
 I use SPY as my benchmark for backtesting with the thinking that if it doesn’t work for SPY it won’t work for most equities .
 
 Here are the other MACD combos I used crossing above the zero line and then exiting on a cross below the signal line.
 
 (6,13,4)
 (10,20,6)
 (15,30,12)
 
 Again, none worked better than (12,26,9) and it also worked well for most stocks in the SP500.
 
 A few things I did find that I am now adding to all my backtest which reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
 1)	Take profit at 10% 
 2)	Only take trades when price is above 150 MA 
 3)	Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit. So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit.
 
 @Redversa --Thanks for sharing your results. Do you manually trade your signals or do you have an automated system?
 
 Also, does Marketinout allow you to optimize your backtest? I cannot do that on Trendspider. I have to enter every iteration manually.
 
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157031 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/18/2021 10:13:23 AM
  https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
 novacane32000 modified 	6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM
 
 MACD crossing the zero line ...none worked better than (12,26,9)... worked well for SPY, most stocks in the SP500.
 
 A few things reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
 1) Take profit at 10%
 2) Only take trades when price is above 150 MA
 3) Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit. 
 So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit. 
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 @novacane32000 
 
 THANK YOU for your advice and backtest results !
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157032 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/18/2021 10:42:33 AM
  @novacane32000,   @Redversa   @nibor100  and  @graftonian
 
 You four are all experts at backtesting.
 
 Recently, karennma has found a TradingView author named QualQuantTrade (Sandy)
 who seems to be quite good in finding stocks showing signs of re-accumulation.
 
  Re-accumulation and rotation can be profitable.
 
 Have you done any works on  Re-accumulation and/or rotation? Any thoughts ?
 
 Thank you. 
 
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novacane32000 331 posts msg #157036 - Ignore novacane32000 | 
6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM
  I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
 
 Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better. 
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157039 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/18/2021 5:53:05 PM
  novacane32000 	6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM
 I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
 Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better. 
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 Thank you, novacane32000
 I also think your strategy is best. 
 You cartainly have Warren Buffett as a great champion in your corner.
 
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redversa721 157 posts msg #157044 - Ignore redversa721 | 
6/18/2021 11:54:35 PM
  Novo
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  have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
 
 Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better. 
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 How about using. a combination of CMF(21) and a momentum. That should show if money is reducing in a sector 
 
 Maybe something like this
  	    
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157045 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/19/2021 2:21:07 AM
  We may be talking about different kinds of rotation.
 
 Rotation from a waning sector of the 11 sectors and into a rising sector may be difficult.
 
 But rotation in and out of the same sector should be do-able.
 
 Rotation in and out of a sector and into an inverse should be do-able.
 
 Rotation in and out of a theme and into a negatively correlated theme should be do-able,
 e.g. back to work & return to normal vs work-from-home.
 
 An idea from glgene is MOO & UUP 
 Often, I focused too much on SPY & QQQ and forgot about the importance of UUP
 
 My useless 2 cents
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157046 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/19/2021 2:34:21 AM
  Other excellent examples from Kevin_in_GA and davesaint86 about yet different kinds of rotation, e.g. 
 spy,iwm,efa,agg
 MDY,SPY,QQQ,EFA
 etc
 
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snappyfrog 749 posts msg #157048 - Ignore snappyfrog | 
6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM
  Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP
 
  
 
  
 
 Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD
 
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157049 - Ignore Cheese | 
6/19/2021 12:53:20 PM
  https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
 snappyfrog	6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM
 
 Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP
 Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD
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 THANK YOU, snappy !
 Your stuff is top of the line and top of mind.
 I'll have to remember to watch stuff like UUP,MOO,AGG,SHY,TLT,TBT,IEF more often
 https://etfdb.com/etfs/bond/treasuries/
 
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