novacane32000 331 posts msg #157030 - Ignore novacane32000 modified |
6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM
Just seeing now that this thread is getting some traction
@Cheese-- I tried a few combinations on MACD slow/fast line crossovers and the results were so bad I stopped searching for a profitable combination. If anyone has a specific combo I can try to backtest it.
I did try several combos of the MACD crossing the zero line and (12,26,9) had the best results.
I use SPY as my benchmark for backtesting with the thinking that if it doesn’t work for SPY it won’t work for most equities .
Here are the other MACD combos I used crossing above the zero line and then exiting on a cross below the signal line.
(6,13,4)
(10,20,6)
(15,30,12)
Again, none worked better than (12,26,9) and it also worked well for most stocks in the SP500.
A few things I did find that I am now adding to all my backtest which reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
1) Take profit at 10%
2) Only take trades when price is above 150 MA
3) Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit. So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit.
@Redversa --Thanks for sharing your results. Do you manually trade your signals or do you have an automated system?
Also, does Marketinout allow you to optimize your backtest? I cannot do that on Trendspider. I have to enter every iteration manually.
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157031 - Ignore Cheese |
6/18/2021 10:13:23 AM
https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
novacane32000 modified 6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM
MACD crossing the zero line ...none worked better than (12,26,9)... worked well for SPY, most stocks in the SP500.
A few things reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
1) Take profit at 10%
2) Only take trades when price is above 150 MA
3) Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit.
So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit.
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@novacane32000
THANK YOU for your advice and backtest results !
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157032 - Ignore Cheese |
6/18/2021 10:42:33 AM
@novacane32000, @Redversa @nibor100 and @graftonian
You four are all experts at backtesting.
Recently, karennma has found a TradingView author named QualQuantTrade (Sandy)
who seems to be quite good in finding stocks showing signs of re-accumulation.
Re-accumulation and rotation can be profitable.
Have you done any works on Re-accumulation and/or rotation? Any thoughts ?
Thank you.
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novacane32000 331 posts msg #157036 - Ignore novacane32000 |
6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM
I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157039 - Ignore Cheese |
6/18/2021 5:53:05 PM
novacane32000 6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM
I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.
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Thank you, novacane32000
I also think your strategy is best.
You cartainly have Warren Buffett as a great champion in your corner.
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redversa721 157 posts msg #157044 - Ignore redversa721 |
6/18/2021 11:54:35 PM
Novo
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have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.
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How about using. a combination of CMF(21) and a momentum. That should show if money is reducing in a sector
Maybe something like this
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157045 - Ignore Cheese |
6/19/2021 2:21:07 AM
We may be talking about different kinds of rotation.
Rotation from a waning sector of the 11 sectors and into a rising sector may be difficult.
But rotation in and out of the same sector should be do-able.
Rotation in and out of a sector and into an inverse should be do-able.
Rotation in and out of a theme and into a negatively correlated theme should be do-able,
e.g. back to work & return to normal vs work-from-home.
An idea from glgene is MOO & UUP
Often, I focused too much on SPY & QQQ and forgot about the importance of UUP
My useless 2 cents
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157046 - Ignore Cheese |
6/19/2021 2:34:21 AM
Other excellent examples from Kevin_in_GA and davesaint86 about yet different kinds of rotation, e.g.
spy,iwm,efa,agg
MDY,SPY,QQQ,EFA
etc
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snappyfrog 731 posts msg #157048 - Ignore snappyfrog |
6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM
Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP
Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD
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Cheese 1,374 posts msg #157049 - Ignore Cheese |
6/19/2021 12:53:20 PM
https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
snappyfrog 6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM
Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP
Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD
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THANK YOU, snappy !
Your stuff is top of the line and top of mind.
I'll have to remember to watch stuff like UUP,MOO,AGG,SHY,TLT,TBT,IEF more often
https://etfdb.com/etfs/bond/treasuries/
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