| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts
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 | 7/21/2008 12:41:56 AM 
 SPF from $3.15 to $3.95 close Friday to Friday.
 
 Trading just one stock....
 
 
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| WALLSTREETGENIUS 983 posts
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 | 7/21/2008 12:08:30 PM 
 You're right...Williams(2) increased, while RSI(2) FELL on Friday 7/11/08!
 
 Nice trade Avery....SPF has been lights out for you man....
 
 
 RIGGS
 
 
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| dforant1 76 posts
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 | 7/26/2008 6:29:16 PM 
 The SPF 15 minute candle method sounds good but I could pull off only 3 trades for 1day and would have to sit aside for 5 days before the next trade because of trading rules. Otherwise post $25000. Presently doing the RSI (2) with some success long and short.
 
 
 
 
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| humbletrader 3 posts
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 | 7/26/2008 10:12:48 PM 
 Please excuse such a simple question from someone trying to learn day trading. I really like the idea of trading one stock but know that if you trade a stock frequently you cannot claim your losing trades for tax purposes ( Wash Rule). How do you trade one stock but avoid the huge taxes.
 
 Thank you for helping new traders.
 
 
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| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts
 msg #65474
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 | 7/26/2008 10:20:57 PM 
 humbletrader
 - Ignore humbletrader 7/26/2008 10:12:48 PM
 
 Please excuse such a simple question from someone trying to learn day trading. I really like the idea of trading one stock but know that if you trade a stock frequently you cannot claim your losing trades for tax purposes ( Wash Rule). How do you trade one stock but avoid the huge taxes.
 
 Thank you for helping new traders.
 
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 That's not the case.
 
 The records of your trade establish a pattern.  It would be obvious, even to the densest IRS agent, that your trades were not to avoid or evade taxes but just your normal trading style.
 
 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-08-05.pdf
 
 READ IN ENTIRITY.
 
 
 
 
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| humbletrader 3 posts
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 | 7/26/2008 11:25:22 PM 
 Thank you TRO for your info. I have been day trading SPX recently and everytime I take a loss my broker ( Fidelity) reports it as a wash sale. Since I dump my broker records straight into my tax software each year I think I'm losing a lot of money by the wash sale designation. Any way around this?
 
 
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| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts
 msg #65483
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 | 7/27/2008 1:21:14 AM 
 Use different tax software or speak with your broker.
 
 Then again, learn to enter and exit with a profit!!
 
 
 
 
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| humbletrader 3 posts
 msg #65495
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 | 7/27/2008 10:52:46 AM 
 That's what I'm trying to do by talking to someone of your obvious intellect. :-) lol
 
 
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| dforant1 76 posts
 msg #65498
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 | 7/27/2008 1:28:13 PM 
 is average true range same as average daily range. ATR/ADR
 
 
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| TheRumpledOne 6,529 posts
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 | 7/27/2008 1:45:31 PM 
 Q. is average true range same as average daily range. ATR/ADR?
 
 A. NO!!!
 
 
 Average True Range
 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
 
 Average True Range (ATR) is a technical analysis indicator developed by J. Welles Wilder, based on trading ranges smoothed by an N-day exponential moving average.
 
 The range of a day's trading is simply high − low. The true range extends it to yesterday's closing price if it was outside of today's range:
 
 true range = max(high,closeprev) − min(low,closeprev)
 
 The average true range is then an N-day exponential moving average of the true range values. Wilder recommended a 14-period smoothing. Note this is by his reckoning of EMA periods (see the EMA article on that), meaning an á=1/14.
 
 The idea of ranges is that they show the commitment or enthusiasm of traders. Large or increasing ranges suggest traders prepared to continue to bid up or sell down a stock through the course of the day. Decreasing range suggests waning interest.
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 From StockFetcher:
 
 Using the relationships between the high and low of a day compared with the previous close, the Average True Range is a measure of volatility developed by Welles Wilder. Typically used to identify oversold and overbought conditions, a low average true range indicates a stock which lacks volatility, while high average true range indicates potentials sell-offs of a stock.
 
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 From StockFetcher:
 
 The average day range computes a simple average of the day range over a given number of days. This value is also represented as a percent of the closing price.
 
 
 
 
 
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