karennma
8,057 posts
msg #82037
- Ignore karennma |
10/29/2009 2:44:10 PM
LVS $15 calls just went bonkers!!
.69 to $1.17.
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #82082
- Ignore karennma
modified |
10/29/2009 11:15:44 PM
GNW (Genworth Fin) WAS an incredible "call" oppportunity.
Yesterday down to $8.50. (same pattern as LVS)
Today up 17%. (close $10.18)
Then UP 9.72% afterhours ($11.17)
and .. over 44,000,000 shrs. traded today.
over 3,000,000 afterhours!
The Nov $9 calls (GNW-KI) IF purchased yesterday on the "dip" @ 0.65.
Could be sold for $1.65 today.
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skiiiva
37 posts
msg #82199
- Ignore skiiiva |
10/31/2009 10:39:10 PM
karen
i didn't see your message till now.
don't know what was going on with the lvs option pricing, probably just t the market makers moving price around with the high volatility.
on anther note , i think this post at whats trading was a good clue to this earnings play.
Posted on October 29th, 2009 10:21 am by fredruffy in All Stocks, Mid Cap Stocks, Travel & Leisure
The top equity options trade today is a lot of 10.5K Las Vegas Sands (LVS) Jan10 calls at the $20 strike for 55 cents on CBOE, which looks like a buyer ahead of earnings today, after market. Shares are up $1.21 to $14.32 and attempting to stabilize after a four-day 21.7 percent slide.
while you cant really verify it till the next day by comparing open interest, I've been researching past postings most of the time when they say it was specifically a buyer they are right. However i have seen the open interest the next day not reflect a huge open position reported at shaeffers, whats trading or crimson mind.
Crimsonmind.com has historical option data by date. if anybody has more incite into this follow the big money approach, please share.
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #82210
- Ignore karennma |
11/1/2009 9:18:38 AM
Skiiva:
When those puts dropped exponentially and the calls went ballistic @ 2:40 pm, THAT, IMHO, was the signal that LVS was gonna rally. Watching the Xtreme movements on the charts was unbelievable!
I've got a theory, which is ... if you watch the put/call activity prior to the earnings call you might be able to tell if he EC will be positive or negative.
When I saw those LVS puts literally go down in the gutter, and the calls rally to the Xtreme, it was a positive signal to take long position. (which means for a trader, not wasting your money on strangle plays. why waste your money on puts if you don't have to?)
I WISH I'd been watching GNW instead of LVS that afternoon!
LOL!
I'll continue to "observe" the options action prior to the ECs, and post what I see.
:>)
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skiiiva
37 posts
msg #82212
- Ignore skiiiva |
11/1/2009 9:38:56 AM
were you watching the price spike on time and sales, or bid/ask quote?
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traderpro
37 posts
msg #82229
- Ignore traderpro |
11/1/2009 1:50:02 PM
CHK tomorrow...option pain at 28...stock trading at 24.50
We got GRMN on the 4th...option pain is at 35...stock trading at 30
any thoughts
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traderpro
37 posts
msg #82250
- Ignore traderpro |
11/1/2009 7:58:00 PM
CRXL...earnings out on tuesday...looks like something leaked...record volume ...option pain 22.50
http://www.crimsonmind.com/options/graphVolPCRatio.aspx
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skiiiva
37 posts
msg #82254
- Ignore skiiiva |
11/1/2009 10:23:21 PM
This week earning list of stocks with previous good movement on earnings
Symbol Price Earning date After Market Last Earning Date Last Earning Movement
DCO $17.02 11/02/09 BO 08/03/09 -21.96
MD $51.92 11/02/09 BO 08/04/09 11.54
TNS $28.26 11/02/09 AC 08/04/09 21.98
KND $14.70 11/02/09 AC 08/04/09 18.14
IPHS $19.35 11/02/09 AC 08/03/09 -14.7
EBS $14.42 11/02/09 AC 08/06/09 20.1
BKD $16.84 11/02/09 AC 08/03/09 21.26
SNCR $11.41 11/02/09 AC 07/30/09 -14.54
RCL $20.23 11/03/09 BO 07/29/09 -17.57
WLK $24.29 11/03/09 BO 08/04/09 -9
GET $15.03 11/03/09 BO 08/04/09 18.62
MA 219.02 11/03/09 BO 07/30/09 10.99
STEC $21.32 11/03/09 AC 08/03/09 -11.32
RKT $43.80 11/03/09 AC 07/27/09 9.37
BBBB $35.47 11/03/09 AC 08/05/09 9.9
RHB $18.75 11/03/09 AC 08/05/09 -22.53
KNXA $12.60 11/03/09 AC 08/04/09 12.83
OSTK $14.00 11/03/09 AC 07/22/09 20.95
MYGN $24.28 11/03/09 AC 08/25/09 19.44
DXPE $11.48 11/03/09 AC 07/30/09 -12.89
TRLG $25.77 11/03/09 AC 08/04/09 15.11
HIG $24.52 11/03/09 AC 07/29/09 15.98
GRMN $30.26 11/04/09 BO 08/05/09 24.72
LL $21.25 11/04/09 BO 08/05/09 23.05
FWLT $27.99 11/04/09 BO 08/05/09 16.23
TRK $13.54 11/04/09 BO 08/06/09 -9.07
HEES $10.60 11/04/09 BO 08/05/09 -10.2
TRW $15.65 11/04/09 BO 08/04/09 19.18
N $13.97 11/04/09 AC 07/30/09 -15.54
GIVN $14.24 11/04/09 AC 08/05/09 11.05
LMNX $14.72 11/04/09 AC 08/06/09 -16.88
GGC $14.37 11/04/09 AC 08/04/09 32.92
KNDL $16.88 11/04/09 AC 08/05/09 -18.53
ROCK $10.82 11/04/09 AC 08/05/09 35.88
MFLX $27.25 11/04/09 AC 08/06/09 17
G $11.91 11/05/09 BO 08/04/09 -14.28
OMG $27.02 11/05/09 BO 08/06/09 -14.57
OCR $21.67 11/05/09 BO 07/30/09 -24.53
HURN $23.20 11/05/09 BO 07/31/09 -74.52
SPR $15.92 11/05/09 BO 07/30/09 -17.67
ENOC $28.73 11/05/09 AC 07/27/09 22.32
KNOT $10.67 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 24.13
MGRC $19.75 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 18.46
AIRM $30.54 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 11.3
HANS $36.15 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 20.73
OMPI $10.22 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 22.53
LEAP $13.22 11/05/09 AC 08/06/09 -25.37
BX $13.42 11/06/09 BO 08/06/09 -14.77
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #82264
- Ignore karennma |
11/2/2009 8:59:05 AM
skiiiva
- skiiiva 11/1/2009 9:38:56 AM
were you watching the price spike on time and sales, or bid/ask quote?
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No. I was watching the options charts.
But I will start looking at T&S as well.
:>)
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skiiiva
37 posts
msg #82278
- Ignore skiiiva |
11/2/2009 3:58:32 PM
interesting 1.4 mil trade, have to see of open interest confirms this tomorrow
11:56 AM
November 02
Dec 4 puts traded at $0.20 (bid:0.10 ask:0.20) and 10,000 Dec 4 calls traded at $1.30 (bid:1.15 ask:1.30). Total of 11827 calls (5.71x avg volume) and 5215 puts (6.97x avg volume) have traded. Earnings announcement on 5-Nov-09.
RRI (RRI ENERGY INC) is at 5.16 -0.11
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